Covid Vaccines: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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    John Oliver explains why some people don’t want to get the Covid-19 vaccine and how they might be reassured. (Even you, Mike in Baltimore.)
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KBW
KBW

The issue isn’t shining a light on people not getting vaccinated, the issue is the mixed messages we keep getting from officials (not media) on how effective vaccines are, what we can do after getting them and which vaccines are safe or not (stopping a vaccine because of blood clots for only a week then bringing it back with no verification this isn’t an issue other than issuing a statement saying “it’s safe” isn’t smart). Give people one message and stick to it and if you don’t, do not blame people for being unsure about getting vaccinated. The misinformation isn’t because of the media, it’s because officials have mixed messages (many times the same officials). Good video but saddened why this video didn’t shine a light on that subject a little more (not as much as I’d like to see at least). Bottom line is, mixed messages (from officials and media) and half assing pulling a vaccine to verify for potential issues aren’t helping and do merit hesitancy.

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SUCC
SUCC

keep talking in your bubble of 13 year olds, no one else would accept the bs you are peddling in support of mega corporations vaccinating the whole planet with untested medicines even after obvious side effects have been shown to occur in many people, especially young and heatlhy individuals who neednt get vaccinated at all, except for your fear of transmission of more dangerous variants, oooooooh the dangerous variants that can negate any vaccine, what bullshit is this. how much money did it take johnny boy?

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Thea Minerva
Thea Minerva

Love John's description of Tucker's baboon face!😂😂

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Tejas
Tejas

Damn....Im indian and im thankful that people here dont have as much vaccine hesitancy as in the US

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illreputed95
illreputed95

FRANK JAEGER

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Ben Quinlan
Ben Quinlan

Comedy.....

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Eugene Rider
Eugene Rider

THIS IS WHY WE LOVE JOHN OLIVER!!!

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Alexander Källberg
Alexander Källberg

And other countries can't get hold of vaccin to vaccinate it's population. Awesome.

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Invalidstr ingError
Invalidstr ingError

Wait so I should get the poke so other don't get sick, yet we don/t know if the poke stops me from spreading the plague? what is it Oilver .. opps.

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jake Empey
jake Empey

21:45

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theacme3
theacme3

to be fair. He isn't completely wrong. If I say, I will list you 6 items: x, x, x, x, x, and x you wouldn't say I just listed you 7 items, would you? So he said 5 testing and 1 "more" which is 6. And, he is only counting the testing. Like: Look how often I say the same word. So, he isn't that dumb. Well, he is an antix waxer, he is pretty dumb.

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

Well yeah, there's not actual "microchips," but Lipid Nanoparticles in the "Experimental Injections" can do horrific things when combined with 5G Ecectromagnetic waves. It's called the "Internet of Things."

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smith yogi
smith yogi

God bless Dr Alaho Olu on YouTube for curing me and my girlfriend from Herpes Simplex Virus. I’m very grateful to you sir

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JiJi
JiJi

I want less assassination jokes and more cicada mascot jokes please. If the mascot joke was a one time thing, I will also accept as many guinea pig videos as you can find.

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Chad Project
Chad Project

It would make a great show if Oliver went to those hesitant to get the vaccine and offered more money until they said OK to the vaccine.

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

Nobody is "Hesitant".... We are saying no way in hell are we getting an "Experimental Injection."

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purplecatlover1825 randompizza
purplecatlover1825 randompizza

I'm 16 (turned 16 last Thursday on the 29th) and my first vaccination is scheduled for this Wednesday

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My1
My1

That guy is awesome. No fear of demonetization or whatever when he wants to say fuck he does

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

@My1 most people do because it turns some people off, but this show is on HBO and it isn't gonna get canceled, and they sure as shit don't care about their audience.

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My1
My1

@RIP ¡ well it iirc gets people demonitzed or why do you think so many other youtubers avoid these words like the plague

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

"Fuck" is not what gets people censored...It's done when people tell the truth that goes against the Narritive.

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Ramón Jiménez
Ramón Jiménez

Dear John and The Last Week Tonight Show team, I beg you to please make a show about Colombia 🇨🇴 were a Fascist Government is killing civilians with militar forces in mid of a pandemic ! : more tan 30 dead people in the last 2 weeks. And hundreds of thousands others since Alvaro Uribe (the last remaining piece of the Pablo Escobar Medellin Cartel is in the power) Thank you John :) ! #SosColombia (Please put like if you want to help Colombian people) thanks 🙏

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tuxovore
tuxovore

Sweet ! How about a similar story about nuclear energy ?

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ijkventure
ijkventure

https://youtu.be/bh07jvjXaK0

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Bradley Morse
Bradley Morse

Vaccine Cicada, we see you.

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Wolfgang Mclain
Wolfgang Mclain

When it comes to Tucker Carlson: just show me his face, don't try to make me listen to him-- I always skip way too far ahead in the video because, as I believe I've stated on a previous video, I cannot stand listening to that man speak. If you show me his face my brain can fill in the rest.

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rafflesmaos
rafflesmaos

@BenJamin Croft Presenting the facts eh? https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123 " 'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

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BenJamin Croft
BenJamin Croft

An actual news anchorman asking questions, demanding answers, and presenting the facts to allow his audience to make up their own minds? Yeah, what an asshole. How dare he say things like that. Shame on him!

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

Allergic to truth, eh?

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Manoj Dash
Manoj Dash

A vaccine is one which prevents the disease. It's not preventing in many cases. So it's not a vaccine.

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Solomone Rabuli
Solomone Rabuli

"I am egg " got me🤣

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Bob V
Bob V

If this shot is soo good, why are you having to sell it so hard? I'll pass on the shot for the wuhan flu with a 99.9% survival rate

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FooBar Maximus
FooBar Maximus

This pushed me over the edge. I'm getting it done ... soon. Thank you John.

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BenJamin Croft
BenJamin Croft

Remember that John Oliver is a comedian hosting a comedy show, generalizing information read from a teleprompter in order for it to fit into his comedic act. I like this show too, but it seriously needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

What?

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Jesse Cole
Jesse Cole

And four days later, Bill and Melinda announce a divorce... I'm thinking this means there are microchips in the Covid vaccine.

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FooBar Maximus
FooBar Maximus

Not everyone trusts Big Pharma as much as you do, John. Yeah, I'm getting mine. My wife already has hers. But you need to understand that our government has destroyed the trust people had. So that is the issue. I'm getting it, but honestly, I don't want to. And my two kids in their 20's are not getting it.

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

And yet you are still getting that shit??

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Steffen Petersen
Steffen Petersen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EPbylsBuzg .... If anyone wants the actual scientific explanation behind it all. The things John didn't have time (or the expertice) for.

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Cave Canem
Cave Canem

Qn supporters believe that you cannot post anything thay is not true on the internet 🤣

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UK
UK

great show, but does anyone think that black girl was weird......question" did you get vaccinated..." reply"I'm black first.," wtf...I'm white...who gives a sh&t.....you was not asked that question

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JiJi
JiJi

I agree... the vaccine is for the whole population. Her skepticism is still illogical.

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lorigee1
lorigee1

Where I live vaccines are not readily available, infections and death rate are going up and my American friends say in their country they are giving it out “like candy”. Smh. You know...the rest if the world (not Europe of course) can actually use those vaccines to save our lives.

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Gwen
Gwen

Scrunch faced fear baboon 🙌

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Sneeky Gypsy
Sneeky Gypsy

The Kennedy joke was grim but sO funny

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BiG M
BiG M

so many people i know are afraid of the vaccine ,for others its a life saver are we really this good to defeat nature the very thing that made us, we understand so little yet do so much we are so small but dream so large, ,within our short life's we must find reason ,reason for what we are who we are and where we are going we fear the unknowing yet we are the unknowing we do not fit in only with our self's and our self worth and still the virus grows and like us just wants to live never knowing the damage it causes . all for the good of its self

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

What?

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Dagwood Chat
Dagwood Chat

The CDC isn't sure??? That's why people aren't sure..

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BenJamin Croft
BenJamin Croft

If you're that sick or if you're that vulnerable or if you're just a plain old germaphobe, then _you_ should be quarantining yourself, wearing a mask, social distancing and getting vaccinated. Not forcing or guilt tripping innocent healthy people into doing it. That's just being selfish and self-centered of the greatest magnitude. That's why people aren't sure.

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ww xo
ww xo

AHAHAHAHA gory assassinated president joke...omg so edgy!!!! and hilarious!! that was about the most pathetic excuse for a "joke" i've ever heard

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The Last Covenant
The Last Covenant

Money out of thin air - William Cooper

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Dagwood Chat
Dagwood Chat

We need a real vaccine.. This so called vaccine is just a synthetic copy of the covid virus. That's why it's only good for about 6 months. If they would come up with the real thing I would get it.

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James Wong
James Wong

ALSO DARPA has developed a COVID injectable microchip tracker it was announced a few weeks ago

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B K
B K

This guy isn't funny

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Anil Kadam
Anil Kadam

In India, numbers are atleast 10 times undercount !!!

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

Bullshit!!!

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James Wong
James Wong

MAYBE when they are actually FDA approved, or maybe when you can actually hold the maker responsible if they harm you later

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Brian Givens
Brian Givens

I love the conspiracy theories about the vaccine: They have microchips, they produce 5G, AND they cause autism?? It sounds like the vaccine is over-engineered to me...

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RIP ¡
RIP ¡

No idiot. It's called "Lipid Nanoparticles" not Microchips. And it doesn't produce 5G, but can do horrific things when 5G get's turned on.

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Derek Derek
Derek Derek

John promised us 2 words, said 8, counted 5

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mikester9er
mikester9er

Denmark banned the J&J vaccine. Its not crazy to be hesitant of an experimental vaccine 😆 Especially for a virus with such high survival odds.

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RollenJokers
RollenJokers

To answer where people might want to learn More. Ill post it near tucker too. yeah Drbeen Medical Lectures (Channel Resources where you can Find Medical things on topic of covid ) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrtd2wePvAl6RN_D-9jWVQQ Administering 2nd Dose Of Moderna Vaccine After Reaction to The 1st https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORy8hCFlEM

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BubblegumAllTheWayDown
BubblegumAllTheWayDown

That egg thought is too real and now I want that too

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goodwitchy
goodwitchy

Shhh... don't mentioned I-V-E-R-M-E-C-T-I-N because we're not allowed to talk about any other potential remedies! I read 10% of people will have severe adverse reactions to the jabs, including death. John, I used to think you were funny; it's sad you're lost. We lost Colbert too. PS: I'm not a Republican.

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rafflesmaos
rafflesmaos

I read 10% of people commenting here will have severe adverse reactions to the video, including conspiracy theory posting. Your "potential remedy" has gone the way of the dodo like HCQ did. I used to think comments like yours were funny, but instead they are legitimately dangerous to anyone that reads them and takes their entirely unscientific claims at face value.

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naeonixion
naeonixion

Doctors turned my mom into a half brain dead zombie for a year. You better believe I'm gonna wait to jab some needle in my arm and EVEN THEN I have to keep wearing the mask? Pass. I'll just keep wearing the mask until these guys figure their sh¹t out

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wikiworldorder
wikiworldorder

Has anyone seen studies regarding the claims that mass-vaccination will reduce the rates of mutations? Those might help convince a lot of people.

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A.J.
A.J.

ah yes john oliver said it not joe rogan so that means it is correct i see i see

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Matan Fleishman
Matan Fleishman

Here are my 2 cents: I live in Israel, and we have about a 55% full vaccination rate already (virtually all with Pfizer vaccines). It's simply amazing, we can do anything we want again - there are virtually no restrictions anymore, and there are currently about 80-+ new cases each day while we are operating at pre-corona levels (and that's after Israel was the leader in Corona cases per capita just a few months ago). You don't even need a 70% vaccination rate, but you got to get vaccinated as quickly as possible. I am really sorry for countries that can't get there because of conspiracy theories, because there is absolutely no reason to keep going with these awful restrictions when you have a vaccine working so well.

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rafflesmaos
rafflesmaos

Israel has definitely been the poster child of how well the vaccines work. Hope you all can convince the holdouts (I think mostly in the ultraorthodox population?) to have even better herd immunity.

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Camilo Fuenzalida
Camilo Fuenzalida

Wheres is the version with canned laughs

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OrgnlProductions
OrgnlProductions

Got the first shot, arm was a bit sore next day but feel great goin back in a week!

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Ozzie Ozzieford
Ozzie Ozzieford

creepy that so many people find the Kennedy joke SO FUNNY!!! what a violent world we live in!!! so much violence, acceptance of violence EVERYWHERE!!

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Bruna Bordoni
Bruna Bordoni

Here in Brazil we’ve barely made it to 60 year-olds and you guys just have it right there for EVERY FUCKING BODY and are not taking it?!

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Lennarth Anaya
Lennarth Anaya

You're sales pitch is silly. If vaccinated "people around me" need me vaccinated to save their lives, then your vaccines don't work

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Amr Hosny
Amr Hosny

I honestly understand why black people are hesitant to trust medical physicians, i mean today a black baby is as likely or get aborted as it is to live, so there are a bunch of racist abortionists doctors out there I’m guessing

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Quit work, Be happy!
Quit work, Be happy!

The Chinese vaccine is only 50.4% effective, and the other vaccines are not effective against the variants. Russia vaccine is also less effective than claimed, although we don't know by how much. The blood clot issue i s"rare" but we were told it was non existent ...and that the safety trials were "thorough"...there's plenty of reasons for people not to get vaccinated.

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Jordan Bergeron
Jordan Bergeron

gross propaganda

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DSC 222777
DSC 222777

Well my respect for J.O. just hit bottom. Get "vaccinated." Sure, what a great idea! Search A.D.E. and get ready to meet your Creator.

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William Bonton
William Bonton

Regular doctors should just promote it. No one famous needs to do it. If normal people did it, it would represent all of us.

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Jim Jones
Jim Jones

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA JOHN OLIVER YOU ARE A FUCKING COMEDIC GENIUS https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles115.htm

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bestsnowboarderuknow
bestsnowboarderuknow

"I didn't get the vaccine because I'm black"... Lmao. The syphilis thing isn't even slightly analogous to a global pandemic.

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Jean-Luc Martel
Jean-Luc Martel

well, you can blame the government lies, DR Fauci Lies, and in many cases the mass media for spreading bullshit about how vaccines work. also, Anti-Vaccinng was invented in the US. Send those vaccines to Canada so we can get rid of Trudeau please!

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Steven Jobe
Steven Jobe

If you step back and consider how this whole presentation is delivered with s kind of ‘aw shucks, ha ha just kidding but seriously,’ you can tell that the network producers consider the intelligence of the average American to be just a half a click above moron. This is the scariest shit I’ve seen in a while. We are doomed.

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Jordan Thomson
Jordan Thomson

No

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Ed H
Ed H

The VP is doing a great job at the border so I trust her when she says don't take it!! Keep up the great work VP!!

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W.K. Bell
W.K. Bell

John Oliver is one of the few people that can take a serious subject, and humorously educate his audience.

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BenJamin Croft
BenJamin Croft

Remember that this is a comedy show hosted by a comedian generalizing information read from a teleprompter in order for it to fit into his comedic act. I like this show too, but it seriously needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

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Ed H
Ed H

No way I am not taking it! The VP said don't trust it because it was Trump who got it done. I don't trust it because the great VP said not to. Don't care what she said after that. She said the truth to begin with.

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TheRealBRad90
TheRealBRad90

Thanks for putting this info out there

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MrOttopants
MrOttopants

Areas which reach herd immunity will be desirable places to visit and spend tourism dollars.

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Alex Mason
Alex Mason

I'm nervous to get the vaccine as an immuno-compromised person. I've seen a lot of conflicting information about it, and I know how sick I can get. I don't just get "a little sick" if I get sick, I get so sick I feel like I'm gonna die. I'm really scared of how bad the symptoms of the shots would be for me. Is there anyone who either is or knows people who are immuno-compromised who got the vaccine?

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rafflesmaos
rafflesmaos

Step 1: Talk to your doctor about it. Step 2: See step 1. No, seriously. Step 3: Check out https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/underlying-conditions.html and https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/immunocompromised-patients-covid-19-vaccines Step 4: Avoid medical advice in youtube comments like the plague, including this comment - see Step 1 instead :)

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Eric Marsh
Eric Marsh

the Kennedy joke tho

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TLe Canuckistan
TLe Canuckistan

Farking folks like Tucker are so dangerous.

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Darren A. Chilton
Darren A. Chilton

03:15 Actually, you can still be a carrier even after being vaccinated ...

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Robert Stewart
Robert Stewart

Salk Institute: "The spike protein “damages cells” and causes “vascular disease” even without a virus." In an article entitled, “The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness“, published on April 30th, 2021, the Salk Institute warns that, “Salk researchers and collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.” https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

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Laura Schiltz
Laura Schiltz

I got my J&J shot today!

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Hugo Mata
Hugo Mata

Too soon 😅

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Johnny Pemberton
Johnny Pemberton

JOHN vs. TUCKER ... 5 ROUNDS

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Astariol
Astariol

The number of people who want to treat COVID as a minor inconvenience for other people to deal with blows my mind.

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BenJamin Croft
BenJamin Croft

If you're that sick or if you're that vulnerable or if you're just a plain old germaphobe, then _you_ should be quarantining yourself, wearing a mask, social distancing and getting vaccinated. Not forcing or guilt tripping innocent healthy people into doing it. That's just being selfish and self-centered of the greatest magnitude.

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Dat Boi
Dat Boi

I don't want your poison

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Rhett Reess
Rhett Reess

As far as "You NEED to get vaccinated" is BS... None of the vaccines have been FDA approved, nor any reel studies of any dangers of it, like someone getting cerebral palsy from it. So. when you talk about herd immunity you don't put vaccinated in front. Real heard immunity is the survival of the fittest. Herd immunity is the greater sum of people will survive. 97% survival rate from COVID-19.. Please stop the lies. Especially when some that are vaccinated twice are still getting Covid-19. Sorry, I just couldn't watch this one all he way through.

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RANDOM
RANDOM

If you have excess then send em here lol , we don't have anything...... Love From india.

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Joseph Gargiulo
Joseph Gargiulo

#VaccineCicada > #SenKennedy

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mlebrooks
mlebrooks

🇬🇳🐖🌉. By 🦜✍️

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Hardik Chawla
Hardik Chawla

Please make an episode about covid in India

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Christopher28fair
Christopher28fair

I hope we reach herd immunity and then all the people who refused to take the vaccine die. Thank you.

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BenJamin Croft
BenJamin Croft

When an area reaches herd immunity, regardless if you took a vaccine or not, no one else will die. That's what herd immunity is all about. smh...

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Veganpotter Thevegan
Veganpotter Thevegan

I'd love it if the vaccine made me infertile🤷

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htwhyppe
htwhyppe

My Pfizer vaccine has given me double vision (diplopia) and monster headaches. I won't go near a second one.

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Alexandre Gallucci
Alexandre Gallucci

American propaganda as its finest

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Somnath Bhattacharjee
Somnath Bhattacharjee

This is what the Indian govt blatantly ignored

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She Luv Deez
She Luv Deez

I love you and your show

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BenJamin Croft
BenJamin Croft

Remember that John Oliver is a comedian hosting a comedy show who is generalizing information read from a teleprompter in order for it to fit into his comedic act. I like this show too, but it seriously needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

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Blaire Shoe
Blaire Shoe

Vax round 1 complete for me. Rest of my family isn't interested, but at least half of them have reasonable excuses (other vaccines making them sick, allergies). I'm leading by example for that other half, and honestly, there's a chance the bad-experience (non-allergy) group will decide to go for it too if they realize no one around them who's gotten it has been too bad. My first round only gave me arm pain, and it was only extreme enough for pain killer ONE NIGHT. Not even during any day. It was pretty sore for quite a while, don't get me wrong, but I thought I would complain a lot more about it. For as worried as I was about side-effects, I only had the one. Cool tip: Have someone hesitant go with you as a spare driver "just in case you're too sore to drive back". My mom was impressed with how fast it was, paperwork included, and got to wait with me for the 15-30 minutes before you're cleared to go. The "cool" part is y'all can stop for ice cream together ;P the non-driver can look up the best places nearby if neither of you can think of one.

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paco ramon
paco ramon

Indian numbers said you were 5 times more likely to die from Covid in Germany than India, reality said something completely different.

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Viper
Viper

@8:55 COVID 19 vaccine is more deadly than the coronavirus itself? CORRECT ANSWER: if you're a healthy young adult is "NOBODY FUCKING KNOWS". It's an experimental drug. There have been no tests on the effects of the vaccine 2, 3, 5 or 10 years from now, also there is no accurate tracking of near term deaths caused by the vaccine. The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) suggests that Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are 15 to 40 times more deadly than the flu vaccine. If you're a child, or a pregnant, nursing or plan to become pregnant healthy young woman the answer again (with even greater emphasis) "NOBODY FUCKING KNOWS". THERE IS NO DATA!!! This isn't anti-vaxxer disinformation. This is a SCIENCE BASED, COMMON SENSE answer. Meanwhile we do know the short term effects of COVID on young, healthy people and children. It's about as bad as the common flu.

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rafflesmaos
rafflesmaos

@Viper The category of people that the vaccine protects through herd immunity is irrelevant. What's important is that both vaccines protect a vulnerable population, and that's why healthy people should get them. As I already mentioned, the 'experimental' qualifiers can be discussed after you provided proof of the above two points, which you still haven't.

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Viper
Viper

@rafflesmaos yes the MMR example was stupid (geez). You're comparing a NON-EXPERIMENTAL vaccine with a proven record of safety that protects against a known killer of young people to an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine that provides no significant protection to young people. Do you even understand risk-cost-benefit?

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rafflesmaos
rafflesmaos

@Viper The MMR example was not stupid. If you don't understand why a healthy adult needs to have the MMR vaccine, you also wouldn't understand why a healthy adult needs to have the COVID vaccine. I'm still waiting for: 1. Proof that those "16 to 40 times" VAERS reports are legitimate. You do understand the discrepancy between the health community immediately drawing attention to J&J incredibly rare side effect, and your claim that they are apparently ignoring a huge amount (in comparison) of deaths? Again, where is your proof? 2. Proof that the COVID has the same chance of death as the flu (I've already provided claim to the contrary, which does NOT compare to current year). "COVID-19 kills old people, and people with co-morbidities": How many people, exactly, do you think have preexisting conditions? We can discuss taking an 'experimental' vaccine once you figure out your 'logic' on the above.

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Viper
Viper

@rafflesmaos burbles, "Your logic (and I use the term loosely)" Don't get smart with me (and we were getting along so well). You're the one who brought up that stupid MMR example (you have to admit I fried your -ss on that one). We already agree that children under 14 aren't at risk and don't need the vaccine. Now we're just quibbling about 15 to 30 year olds. You've already lost the debate. Whether or not COVID or the flu is suppressed by a lockdown is moot. We're dealing with reality. The reality is we're comparing lockdown COVID-19 to the flu in 2017, 18 and 19. I suppose we could debate about the effectiveness of lockdowns on COVID-19 at another time. COVID-19 kills old people, and people with co-morbidities, primarily heart disease, lung disease and diabetes. While some young people are killed by COVID most of those suffered co-morbidities, which is sad. For me to state that young, healthy people are no more at risk from COVID than the flu isn't dangerous. It's fact. According the VAERS database (using the same standards) 16 to 40 times as many deaths due to the COVID vaccine in four months as the flu vaccine caused in 12 months. A variance of 3%, 5%, 10%. Sure you call that noise/static, but a variance in TENS OF THOUSANDS percent? I suppose you could ignore that, call it inaccurate, unreliable, anti-science, convince yourself VAERS has no value to the medical community, but you'd expose yourself as a fool if you did. John Oliver is a fool. On that note @3:23 when Oliver said the vaccine is only 95% effective he is either stupid or deliberately misleading the public. NOT A SINGLE member of the Moderna or the Pfizer vaccine control groups were hospitalized or died. The 95% effective figures comes from the number of people who became infected with COVID. Placebo and control groups had almost identical infection rates. Some placebo patients were hospitalized, some died. NONE of the control groups did. So again, why should a healthy young person take an experimental vaccine? You can't make a vaccinated person severely sick.

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rafflesmaos
rafflesmaos

@Viper Again, first prove that VAERS can be trusted for just the raw unverified data that says x people died from y vaccine. Then, once you've proven that, prove that they've died as the result of the vaccine, and not for any other reason. Both of these are important, as for example there's a rampantly circulating unverified claim right now that 15 year old died in the time period where 15 year old couldn't even legally get that vaccine. Your logic (and I use the term loosely) is once again faulty. I'm really starting to get tired on correcting even for extremely minor claims. This is not "no more dangerous" than the common flu, and that is an extremely dangerous and a completely disingenuous statement. If it were as dangerous than the flu, then we would only expect to see 30-60k excess deaths in USA. Instead, we see over 500k excess deaths, and that's with lockdowns. Furthermore, actual statistics completely invalidate your claims: https://freopp.org/comparing-the-risk-of-death-from-covid-19-vs-influenza-by-age-d33a1c76c198 The only age category at the time of this article where the flu was more dangerous was under 14. In all other categories it was anywhere from 4 to 13 times more deadly. Edit: By the way, have you ever wondered how many people died of the flu in the 2020-2021 season?

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Viper

Almost everything John Oliver said is patently illogical and absurd.

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